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  INFJ . Type 2 . Multilingual . Super Junior. Choi Siwon. Cho Kyuhyun. Lee Jonghyun
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yoestoyaquiparati-siempre whispered : Why do you believe you Siwon does not much appeal to the Korean audience? (I ask out of curiosity). The truth is that in the beginning (when I met SJ) I thought Siwon would be the most popular and beloved in Korea because he does have that image of perfect man , but it seems that is not so. I study psychology and I really like dig and delve into the personality and character of the people. I very much like the personality of Siwon. I think he's deep, complex, open-minded... and many more. Thanks

Siwon is perhaps the most popular SJ member in Korea, although this can be argued easily with Kyuhyun’s and Henry’s popularity nowadays through variety. And like you said, he does have that image of perfect man. He is one of Korea’s 엄친아 (엄마 친구 아들 , the son of mom’s friend who your mom always compares you with) because of how perfect he appears to be. But this does not necessarily make him automatically popular in public. At least, not when we compare him to other male actors. 

How about this? For midterm result, you get the highest exam score in class. Let’s say, you get 94. However, there are other students from different class that have achieved a higher grade than you.  Those students get 96, 98, 99 and even a perfect 100. Furthermore, those students are students who have previously won academic contests inside and outside of school. So, although like them, you actually achieve an A grade, not many people remember you as much as they do with those students who get higher grades than you and have won academic contests before. It’s not necessarily that you aren’t as capable as them. It’s just that they have shown a consistent great achievement in academic than you and that makes people acknowledge them more.

Another case if the other students get the same grade as you. But because they are also students who have shown their skills through academic contest and activities, people still will tend to acknowledge them more than you, even if you have the same grade as them. Again, the reason is because they have shown consistent achievement which has established an image for them in school.

What can we gather from this illustration? Compared to other SJ members, Siwon maybe the most popular member to public. But compared to other actors or male celebs, who have more works in Korea, he may not be as well known as them. 

Idols aren’t really much known in public. The preference seems to be more to actors> singers > variety acts > idols in public. Siwon is an actor and had had worked in some acting projects in Korea. However, he doesn’t really have that one project that made a huge hit for him in Korea, except for King of Drama. This is why although he does have good image, it doesn’t necessarily mean he will have high popularity in public when compared to other actors. 

Same like you, I am currently studying psychology. As Siwon’s fan for 5 years, I have to say that he is one of the most complex person I know. I remember saying once that learning about Siwon is like opening a door to find another door, and you open that door, and you find another door. I always find myself surprised at his acts and words. Sometimes he does and says something that is unexpected. He has his good traits and bad traits, just like everybody else. He’s serious but then he makes people laugh easily. He’s one interesting person, that’s for sure. Sometimes I think people only look at him because of his looks and just tend to make prejudice against him, without even trying to dig more. When I see that happens, sometimes I get upset because it’s not fair and I think Siwon is not only about his wealth, fame, looks or that one quote he said. He has more than that and I think he’s a nice person.

익명 회원 whispered : China has a really restricted policy on social networking, if you travel to China and try to access twitter through internet in China (not sure how they track it but internet in China bans certain SNS sites) it will say something like not available or restricted. I think this is why China came out with Weibo, a SNS site that is really similar to twitter, but I'm not sure there is a Chinese Facebook equivalent. Hope this helped!

Ah yes, twitter is blocked in China but I heard and found that people still can use twitter or any of the blocked websites by using VPN or by changing their proxy. There are also sites that even allow you to access twitter without doing those two. 

I also found this: http://www.techinasia.com/twitter-server-china/

익명 회원 whispered : Hello! Siwon has do a retweet , now he is not in China? When Siwon is in China he can't connect to Twitter, right??. Thank you :)

He can if he uses VPN. Unfortunately, I am not the best person to ask when it comes to tech like this, so I can’t explain further ;;; Sorry.

익명 회원 whispered : hi, I want to know your opinion as siwon stan.. in your opinion,why does SMent sent siwon to china-taiwan for drama?? as far as I know,he got drama offered from korea as well but SMent prefer siwon does acting overseas.. and why do you think -so far- siwon is the only member whose busy overseas?? thank you

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Because…

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SM has always had their eyes on China market and even Lee Sooman previously had made a statement that China will be the next Hollywood. 

Now, SM is an entertainment company. They can promote all those SMTOWN love as much as they want, but don’t forget they are a company first before that. It means that money is their goal. Truth hurts and I honestly don’t like this fact, but let’s be realistic.  

Overseas market, especially China, pays more than domestic market. Siwon has name in China, be it from SJ’s activities or just his individual activities. He’s good looking and such a gentleman. He has connections to a lot of famous people. He has good image. He’s not as fluent as Zhoumi in Chinese but enough to understand and make some conversations. This aspect of him makes him appealing to the market in China, especially the last one. It’s no wonder he gets offers from China. And I am not saying this because he is my bias, but just by the aspects of him that I have stated, I think he maybe the SJ member who got the most offers from overseas, especially China. And then, Siwon is an artist under SM Entertainment. As his management company, SM gets to choose which project Siwon will take. If you were SM, a company which main purpose is to gain as much profit as possible (since it’s business after all), what would you prefer? More money overseas or less money domestic?

Siwon has been having a lot of activities overseas, particularly China, because he gets a lot of offers from there and like I said, if you were SM, which one would you pick? More money from overseas activities or less money domestic? 

Tbh, although Siwon have acting projects in Korea and may be more known as an actor, Siwon probably doesn’t have much appeal for Korean public as… let’s say, Lee Seunggi. Or Lee Minho. Or Lee Jongsuk. Or Kim Woobin. Imho, from all of his acting projects, none of them really made a big hit (meaning it made him really more known in public). At least not until ‘King of Drama’. His character as Kang Hyunmin really made a huge good impression on netizens for him. But, even though KoD was a good drama and the drama and his character actually were liked a lot by netizens, sadly it didn’t achieve high viewer rating. Compare that to all the other actors that I mentioned, where all of them had dramas that hit big in Korea. Those actors might be more preferred in Korea than Siwon might be, although in terms of looks and image, Siwon doesn’t lose to them. High preference means company would make a high offer to artist to involve in the company’s project. Thus, my assumption is that’s why SM choose to pick the overseas activity more than domestic one for Siwon, simply because it makes more profit for them than if Siwon taking activity in Korea. It’s probably the same case with Eunhae or even KRY. Those sub-units had their albums released first in Japan and they even did their own concert there. In fact, Eunhae are now in the middle of their concert tour. Some fans might question, why in Japan? why not Korea? Again, the answer is money. Because they make more money in there.

Anyway, this is my own perspective, so take it with a grain of salt. 

It’s true that Siwon doesn’t have as much appealing in Korean as those actors you mentioned. However, seeing SM let DongHae, KangIn, HeeChul accept dramas in Korea while their names are not more or less appealing than Siwon either, you can conclude that the only reason Siwon gets more activities overseas because he is the best bet as ‘global face’ who can make his own name and earn more money for SM.  PERIOD!

Yes, Siwon is good looking but so are Kangin, Heechul and Donghae. Tbh, I don’t think it’s because of Siwon’s face that he gets a lot of offers from overseas. In term of looks, imo Donghae doesn’t lose to Siwon either. in fact, I’ve heard many people liking Donghae’s looks more than Siwon. 

But when it comes to getting activities, you have to remember that there are many factors that count towards and affect the decision. Looks is not the sole reason why one is chosen to get a project. For example, the aspects of Siwon that I had stated in my original post. Him being fluent enough in the language and having connections with a lot of popular people in the country might have possibly influenced the offers given to him. And even these are not the only possible reasons out there. There maybe more other reasons behind company’s decision to pick him. 

In one case, Siwon may get 2 offers from China and Korea. One pays him a lot and one might pay him less. However, Siwon isn’t the only one who gets to make decision. He is under SM and SM acts as his management company. As a company, of course they will get to choose the one who will bring more money to them, right?

Personally, I believe if Heechul, Kangin, or Donghae attained the same aspects that Siwon has, they would probably also get more offers from overseas. If Heechul, Kangin, or Donghae gets the same offers like Siwon, SM would do the same too. They would pick the project that brings more profit to them. 

익명 회원 whispered : hi, I want to know your opinion as siwon stan.. in your opinion,why does SMent sent siwon to china-taiwan for drama?? as far as I know,he got drama offered from korea as well but SMent prefer siwon does acting overseas.. and why do you think -so far- siwon is the only member whose busy overseas?? thank you

Because…

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SM has always had their eyes on China market and even Lee Sooman previously had made a statement that China will be the next Hollywood. 

Now, SM is an entertainment company. They can promote all those SMTOWN love as much as they want, but don’t forget they are a company first before that. It means that money is their goal. Truth hurts and I honestly don’t like this fact, but let’s be realistic.  

Overseas market, especially China, pays more than domestic market. Siwon has name in China, be it from SJ’s activities or just his individual activities. He’s good looking and such a gentleman. He has connections to a lot of famous people. He has good image. He’s not as fluent as Zhoumi in Chinese but enough to understand and make some conversations. This aspect of him makes him appealing to the market in China, especially the last one. It’s no wonder he gets offers from China. And I am not saying this because he is my bias, but just by the aspects of him that I have stated, I think he maybe the SJ member who got the most offers from overseas, especially China. And then, Siwon is an artist under SM Entertainment. As his management company, SM gets to choose which project Siwon will take. If you were SM, a company which main purpose is to gain as much profit as possible (since it’s business after all), what would you prefer? More money overseas or less money domestic?

Siwon has been having a lot of activities overseas, particularly China, because he gets a lot of offers from there and like I said, if you were SM, which one would you pick? More money from overseas activities or less money domestic? 

Tbh, although Siwon have acting projects in Korea and may be more known as an actor, Siwon probably doesn’t have much appeal for Korean public as… let’s say, Lee Seunggi. Or Lee Minho. Or Lee Jongsuk. Or Kim Woobin. Imho, from all of his acting projects, none of them really made a big hit (meaning it made him really more known in public). At least not until ‘King of Drama’. His character as Kang Hyunmin really made a huge good impression on netizens for him. But, even though KoD was a good drama and the drama and his character actually were liked a lot by netizens, sadly it didn’t achieve high viewer rating. Compare that to all the other actors that I mentioned, where all of them had dramas that hit big in Korea. Those actors might be more preferred in Korea than Siwon might be, although in terms of looks and image, Siwon doesn’t lose to them. High preference means company would make a high offer to artist to involve in the company’s project. Thus, my assumption is that’s why SM choose to pick the overseas activity more than domestic one for Siwon, simply because it makes more profit for them than if Siwon taking activity in Korea. It’s probably the same case with Eunhae or even KRY. Those sub-units had their albums released first in Japan and they even did their own concert there. In fact, Eunhae are now in the middle of their concert tour. Some fans might question, why in Japan? why not Korea? Again, the answer is money. Because they make more money in there.

Anyway, this is my own perspective, so take it with a grain of salt. 

익명 회원 whispered : Seems like Kyuhyun is a "silent observant". He looks silent but he observe surrounding with his eyes. I saw many Kyu's focus fancam and his eyes wandering everywhere. When there's something make him curious, he'd ask or try to act out. Just like when in past and recent promotion, when there's a member missing he always notice first.

Perhaps you are right. Never thought about that tbh. Let’s just say he’s one who is very aware of his surrounding. That’s a good trait but can also be a bad trait when excessively done. 

익명 회원 whispered : Have you watched this " /watch?v=CxEPr6gMJGg " ? Looks like he really tried hard to "dont appear like maknae coz many fans here" , "omma, noona, please dont pamper me infront of fans". "I want to go out, SOON" , "I want to behave like I'm at home, but many fans here. Ah complicated" . haha.. XD

He looked a bit anxious there lol idk what else to say….Particularly this part http://youtu.be/CxEPr6gMJGg?t=25s where his face looked worried/nervous but then he smiled a bit. However his smile still seemed like he’s worried. Lol I’m sorry sometimes I am too observant like that. I think he needed to leave soon, that’s why he’s acting like that. Or I don’t know…I was not in the scene when it happened.

PS: Sorry it took me this long to reply the message. 

익명 회원 whispered : do you agree with what SJ doing : fight when there's problem and then solve it directly so there's no misunderstanding in the future? Their relationship is just like family who mock each other alot yet care about each other problem.

Yes, I agree. A healthy relationship is not one that has no fight or problem at all. By having a conflict in relationship, although it can also ruin the relationship, conflict also forces people to learn and understand about each other ,when they find the right way to do it. This can also help strengthening the relationship. It’s also good to solve the problem without dragging it too long because the longer you keep it, the deeper you could get hurt from the problem. That’s why if you have problem, don’t just keep it to yourself. 

This is only my opinion, but as I time passed by and I thought about it a lot, perhaps if Geng was more open and SJ members were more sensitive, Geng wouldn’t have to leave. But this is just my thought only. In no way I am blaming either side. I am aware that there are many reasons behind him leaving SM. And he left because of SM, not because of SJ. 

Although it was something that I feel it was a pity to happen, I think SJ members have learned a lot from this problem and this actually has helped them to be closer to each other. Since their debut, they have gone through a lot and despite what people say about them, they continue to give their best and show that they can’t be easily gotten rid of. This is why I still stan them until today :)

익명 회원 whispered : So actually KBS wants to fight Radio Star with releasing new variety show? :( Ah..I like Yoo Jae Suk, I like RS's MCs too. But maybe I dont need to watch those new show, just wait for the Engsub. Altho I dont understand RS at all, I always laugh with all the CG and the interactions between guest and MC.

Well, don’t all TV stations want to get the best viewer rating? It doesn’t necessarily mean KBS wants to fight Radio Star. Although I personally like Yoo Jaesuk among all Korean MCs, but just because he is the lead of show, it doesn’t mean the show will get a really good rating continuously. Look at MBC Come To Play. After years of airing, they finally ended the show and it was done so suddenly. Even Yoo Jaesuk himself said that the show doesn’t depend on him but the format of the show and the members of the show. 

All I am saying is it’s too early to judge. The viewer rating can change in a way that we never expect :)